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		<title>By: Christian Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Zimmermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Melanie makes a comment that has been made to us several times already. The problem is that the current system is not set up to allow authors to identify a principal affiliation, or to rank them or to attribute different weights to each. We simply did not think about that when designing the system. Now it is quite difficult to change that, especially as our volunteer resources are rather thin. But it is certainly something I will keep in mind once with find a volunteer who would want to help out (perl, and probably javascript, competences a great plus).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie makes a comment that has been made to us several times already. The problem is that the current system is not set up to allow authors to identify a principal affiliation, or to rank them or to attribute different weights to each. We simply did not think about that when designing the system. Now it is quite difficult to change that, especially as our volunteer resources are rather thin. But it is certainly something I will keep in mind once with find a volunteer who would want to help out (perl, and probably javascript, competences a great plus).</p>
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		<title>By: Kit Baum</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kit Baum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would not argue with Melanie&#039;s logic, but as #12 in that ranking, I must comment. I am not a German citizen (although I am named after a great-grandfather who was) but I do have a research professor appointment with a German research institution. That affiliation is not given without serious consideration.  I am co-principal investigator on a grant from a German foundation at that research institution. I spent 10 days working in Berlin earlier this spring on that project. So I would not agree that every non-German on that list lacks any meaningful connection with German scientific activity.

It can be somewhat difficult to determine &#039;the university at which the economist is employed&#039; from the information provided when self-registering at RePEc Author Service.  Can you tell me which affiliation we should consider for P.C.B. Phillips?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not argue with Melanie&#8217;s logic, but as #12 in that ranking, I must comment. I am not a German citizen (although I am named after a great-grandfather who was) but I do have a research professor appointment with a German research institution. That affiliation is not given without serious consideration.  I am co-principal investigator on a grant from a German foundation at that research institution. I spent 10 days working in Berlin earlier this spring on that project. So I would not agree that every non-German on that list lacks any meaningful connection with German scientific activity.</p>
<p>It can be somewhat difficult to determine &#8216;the university at which the economist is employed&#8217; from the information provided when self-registering at RePEc Author Service.  Can you tell me which affiliation we should consider for P.C.B. Phillips?</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the &quot;Top 20% authors in Germany&quot; ranking is indeed amusing and cannot be taken seriously. No one in the Top 10 is a German citizen, no one works in Germany. Frankly, I would not be surprised if some of the listed authors have never been in Germany for a single day. I think it makes absolutely no sense to list economists who are &quot;affiliated&quot; with IZA or CESifo in the German ranking. This kind of affiliation means nothing, IZA and CESifo just give away these affiliations. In principle, they could give it to every economist in the world ranking, then the world ranking and the German ranking would be identical after all. I think that only the university at which the economist is employed should determine to which country the economist belongs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the &#8220;Top 20% authors in Germany&#8221; ranking is indeed amusing and cannot be taken seriously. No one in the Top 10 is a German citizen, no one works in Germany. Frankly, I would not be surprised if some of the listed authors have never been in Germany for a single day. I think it makes absolutely no sense to list economists who are &#8220;affiliated&#8221; with IZA or CESifo in the German ranking. This kind of affiliation means nothing, IZA and CESifo just give away these affiliations. In principle, they could give it to every economist in the world ranking, then the world ranking and the German ranking would be identical after all. I think that only the university at which the economist is employed should determine to which country the economist belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinHORourke</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinHORourke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Christian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christian!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Zimmermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

I have incorporated your suggestion in the rankings released today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I have incorporated your suggestion in the rankings released today.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinHORourke</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinHORourke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a suggestion. When giving the area rankings, why not give both sets of rankings: i.e. those using &#039;world relative prices&#039; and those using &#039;domestic relative prices&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a suggestion. When giving the area rankings, why not give both sets of rankings: i.e. those using &#8216;world relative prices&#8217; and those using &#8216;domestic relative prices&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Zimmermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the area rankings released today January 2, 2008, I have amended the procedure in the following way: an author&#039;s score is now multiplied by a field specific weight, this weight being the number of papers announced in the field NEP report divided by the number of all papers announced in NEP. I hope this will make the field rankings more credible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the area rankings released today January 2, 2008, I have amended the procedure in the following way: an author&#8217;s score is now multiplied by a field specific weight, this weight being the number of papers announced in the field NEP report divided by the number of all papers announced in NEP. I hope this will make the field rankings more credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Zimmermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard just made some interesting points I want to address once I have received some more input (other readers, do not hesitate to write...).

Now regarding misclassification in the field rankings: Kevin asks why some prominent economic historians do not show up. They are all registered with RePEc, so this is not the problem. All but one qualify for the field. The one who does not is Douglass North, because only one of his five papers announced in NEP made it to the NEP-HIS report. Why are then the others not among the top 5%? It may have to do with the fact that the ranking is polluted  with the other type of misclassification: authors that are only marginally in the field, but overall rank higher. This is a consequence of the choice I made of making an unweighted ranking of everyone who qualifies. Maybe I should weigh each by the proportion of papers announced in NEP that are in the field. Bob Margo then would certainly make it, as 14 of 19 papers were listed in NEP-HIS. Bob Lucas, currently on top, probably would rank lower, as only one of his three NEP papers qualify.

To see how this kind of misclassification may matter, see how Tom Cooley is the top agricultural economist. Currently, he is dean of the business school at NYU. Busy as he must be, he has not refreshed his profile for some time. Thus he has just three papers in NEP, one of them in agricultural economics (on social security with an agricultural sector). But he is very highly ranked overall, and this makes him the top ageconomist.  Similarly, Bob Barro is tops in every field he qualifies for, by virtue of being the top ranked economist overall. I think we need to find a good way to weigh the scores by field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard just made some interesting points I want to address once I have received some more input (other readers, do not hesitate to write&#8230;).</p>
<p>Now regarding misclassification in the field rankings: Kevin asks why some prominent economic historians do not show up. They are all registered with RePEc, so this is not the problem. All but one qualify for the field. The one who does not is Douglass North, because only one of his five papers announced in NEP made it to the NEP-HIS report. Why are then the others not among the top 5%? It may have to do with the fact that the ranking is polluted  with the other type of misclassification: authors that are only marginally in the field, but overall rank higher. This is a consequence of the choice I made of making an unweighted ranking of everyone who qualifies. Maybe I should weigh each by the proportion of papers announced in NEP that are in the field. Bob Margo then would certainly make it, as 14 of 19 papers were listed in NEP-HIS. Bob Lucas, currently on top, probably would rank lower, as only one of his three NEP papers qualify.</p>
<p>To see how this kind of misclassification may matter, see how Tom Cooley is the top agricultural economist. Currently, he is dean of the business school at NYU. Busy as he must be, he has not refreshed his profile for some time. Thus he has just three papers in NEP, one of them in agricultural economics (on social security with an agricultural sector). But he is very highly ranked overall, and this makes him the top ageconomist.  Similarly, Bob Barro is tops in every field he qualifies for, by virtue of being the top ranked economist overall. I think we need to find a good way to weigh the scores by field.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tol</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Tol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, national rankings from the national pool add information -- and comfort too: Klaus Zimmermann is a better German economist than I am, but I do better on the US ranking. I&#039;d rather be American than German, and I guess Zimmermann is proud to be German.

There is a post-normal whiff here.

The national ranking is more important, because it contains my immediate peers, and because it is one that national funders and assessors will look at. People are known to select a strategy that improves their rank. (My Irish rank would improve if I get the many second rate publications of my compatriots on IDEAS/RePEc.) In a small country, the national definition of excellence may diverge from the global definition. There is already a deviation between Irish norms and international norms -- because the mediocre majority in this country has very peculiar ideas on what a good economist should and should not do.

Therefore, I think that IDEAS/RePEc should display both national/national and national/global ranks, and the national/global ranking should determine the order in which people are displayed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, national rankings from the national pool add information &#8212; and comfort too: Klaus Zimmermann is a better German economist than I am, but I do better on the US ranking. I&#8217;d rather be American than German, and I guess Zimmermann is proud to be German.</p>
<p>There is a post-normal whiff here.</p>
<p>The national ranking is more important, because it contains my immediate peers, and because it is one that national funders and assessors will look at. People are known to select a strategy that improves their rank. (My Irish rank would improve if I get the many second rate publications of my compatriots on IDEAS/RePEc.) In a small country, the national definition of excellence may diverge from the global definition. There is already a deviation between Irish norms and international norms &#8212; because the mediocre majority in this country has very peculiar ideas on what a good economist should and should not do.</p>
<p>Therefore, I think that IDEAS/RePEc should display both national/national and national/global ranks, and the national/global ranking should determine the order in which people are displayed.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://blog.repec.org/2007/12/02/important-changes-in-repec-rankings/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Zimmermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me offer a reply for the discussion about the regional (or national) rankings. Just extracting from the world ranking does not offer any additional information, except for countries that would have no representatives in the worldwide top 5%. So computing rankings from a regional pool provides added value, as long as results are somewhat different.

Now, how can we explain these &quot;oddities&quot; where the ranks can be different from the worldwide ranking? Say economist A is much better than compatriot B in some dimension, but slightly worse on others. In the worldwide ranking, A gets a better score and possibly rank because he managed to get many non-nationals between him and the others for his strong criteria. In the ranking from the national pool, he is just one rank ahead, and B is just ahead on the others. On aggregate, B may be ahead. Richard is like economist A in that he is very prolific and thus garners many bonus points from this in the worldwide ranking. But not in the national ranking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me offer a reply for the discussion about the regional (or national) rankings. Just extracting from the world ranking does not offer any additional information, except for countries that would have no representatives in the worldwide top 5%. So computing rankings from a regional pool provides added value, as long as results are somewhat different.</p>
<p>Now, how can we explain these &#8220;oddities&#8221; where the ranks can be different from the worldwide ranking? Say economist A is much better than compatriot B in some dimension, but slightly worse on others. In the worldwide ranking, A gets a better score and possibly rank because he managed to get many non-nationals between him and the others for his strong criteria. In the ranking from the national pool, he is just one rank ahead, and B is just ahead on the others. On aggregate, B may be ahead. Richard is like economist A in that he is very prolific and thus garners many bonus points from this in the worldwide ranking. But not in the national ranking.</p>
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